"The way Elon Musk went about this and the people working for him went about this as reported in the new book Into the Woodshipper by Nicholas Enrich, who was inside at the time, clearly shows that they didn't have any idea what USAID actually did. No, I think, again, recounted by so many of the staff that I had the privilege of working with, whether in print now or just as one commiserates with them, the questions were wild. Believing these kind of fringe conspiracy theories that began to go viral in part because Musk himself was amplifying them using the Twitter platform that he had bought. But they seemed to really believe the misinformation diet that they were consuming. And so one of the questions that was posed consistently in meetings, I gather, this is after I left, of course, was, aren't you just an agency that carries out abortions? It is illegal for the taxpayer resources at USAID to be used to fund abortions. But they were shocked when they actually heard, no, in fact, this is an agency that had prevented 25 million people from dying of HIV, or this was an agency that had helped electrify 150 million homes so that kids could read late at night after the sun goes down, or hospitals didn't have to rely on generators to perform surgeries, for doctors to perform surgeries. They were shocked. But nobody seemed willing to present that information to Musk at the time. Musk himself was uninterested. This was an ideological rampage, a fever dream, an expressive act to show that they could tear down such a critical part of the United States government and such a critical part of American soft power and American national security interests abroad."