"have to document, but we've been documenting it forever, right? So we have all this data on black suffering, black inequities, black higher rates of this, and almost like a very much smaller body on black thriving, like, you know, on black people doing well despite all the things that are stacked against us. Like it's amazing inequities aren't higher, right? Considering all things considered, you know, how long we've been doing this. So, but the field, you know, we can't see what works. That's not what's being collected. That's not the data we're looking at. And the data systems have been, you know, designed for that purpose, designed so that we are not collecting the data that we need to collect to truly see everything, to paint the picture that we need to actually create interventions that work. So amplifying these stories isn't just about, you know, feeling good, which I think is a part of the purpose of changing the narrative, but it's also about correcting a measurement gap too. And that's why narrative is so important. It's not just about a feel-good story. It's about collecting data that we need to create the true solutions. Because without that, it's really hard to do the work we have to do."