"Oh, okay, like, but it was like, I'm just doing that. And then you're like, oh yeah, cause Rowan just said like, you have to do it like that and like spin it like a frisbee. That's why I'm doing this. When you first start, you're pulling it. When you were, when you first started, you were literally going like, you were like flicking your wrist with it. And it was. Cause that's what he was doing. So I was like."