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Josh Allan Dykstra @joshallan.com
Jul 11, 11:27 AM

I thought I understood debt, but I was very wrong. Debt is extraction of our future labor. And when you understand debt like this, everything makes more sense.

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"I know I promised you some sultry pillow talk about debt and we're ready to go there now. Because the real baller capitalist move isn't just reducing personal surplus. It's eliminating surplus entirely, so completely that you need something else to cover your basic needs. What is that thing? You guessed it, debt. I'm not talking about buying luxuries, my friends. I'm just talking about life, housing, healthcare, education, transportation, emergencies. Can you pay for any of these without debt? Did you buy your house without debt? If something unexpected happens, can you cover the medical bills? Could you pay for college in cash? How about your car? Do you pay for that outright? You got a stash of gold for your emergency fund, right? Do you see it? When surplus disappears, debt stops being optional and starts being necessary. And that's the point. It's not a conspiracy, it's just good capitalism. Because if you rely on debt to live, you are permanently tied to future work. You can't pause, you can't refuse, you can't walk away. Debt replaces surplus as the buffer. Credit replaces savings as the safety net. And the system no longer needs to pay you enough to live, it just needs to make sure you can borrow the difference. There's actually one more layer of mind bending here. What is debt? Ask me this question two weeks ago and I would have said, I understand debt pretty darn well. I got student loans, I've bought and sold houses, I've built companies with lines of credit, raised money, filed a bankruptcy. I got a pretty solid understanding of what debt is, thank you very much. But I didn't really get it. Capitalism requires continuous growth because it borrows from the future to function in the present. The future has to keep getting bigger to cover the tab. Continual growth can only happen when there's something continual to extract. The five most common things being labor, energy, land, attention, and debt. I think it's relatively straightforward to see how capitalism extracts from the first four. But what about debt? What does extraction have to do with debt? This is where we all become futurists. Debt, my friends, is an extraction of your future labor. Debt is simply a claim on labor that you will labor in the future. When you take on debt, you're not spending what you have, you're committing time you haven't lived yet. Future hours, future energy, future attention, and with interest. This isn't new. For most of human history though, debt was local and relational. Debt was visible and human scale bounded by relationship. When credit works like that, there's natural limits. People don't extract endlessly from people they have to see every day. Reputation matters, but that kind of system doesn't scale."

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Josh Allan Dykstra @joshallan.com · Jul 9, 07:33 PM

I thought I understood debt, but I was very wrong. Debt is extraction of our future labor. And when you understand debt like this, everything makes more sense.