"because the more questions we asked, the more information we were actually getting. Like one thing about it is, especially more experienced people in kink, they are a lot older. They're in their 50s, 60s, and some in their 70s. And we have to be at least a little more mindful. And then one thing about it is, and this is something I assumed that I assumed. They ain't got as much time as you do. Exactly, like the one thing I assumed is do you think they'll be a mentor to you or something? No, don't expect that shit automatically. Well, but also you may not, don't rush into it anyways because you may not want them as your mentor. Yeah, and you gotta be very mindful of who you accept advice from."