"When I first met him, I was like, well, this guy's not gonna be able to help me. I mean, this older man, he don't look like he's lived any kind of life at all to know what I've been through. And, um, but okay, I'll give it a try, you know, and it worked so well. I mean, it was like, it was so awesome. It was such an awesome experience. But throughout the whole thing, it was because he kept it simple. He just said, I'm obeying God. I'm here and we're just going to pray, you know, and I'll kind of lead you. But the Holy Spirit is doing the leading."