"Morning Mike. Oh hello. What are you glued to Cameron? Just your screen unfortunately. Unfortunately? What do you do for a living Cameron? I'm a carpenter. A carpenter, right. So how safe is that for the climate? Well I work with timber which is a much more sustainable material rather than concrete. I also work with trees that have been cut down then don't you? It's a sustainable building practice. How is it sustainable if you're killing trees? Because it's regenerative you can grow trees. Right. Well you can you can grow all sorts of things can't you? Well you can't grow concrete. You can. See you Cameron. Cheerio. That was Cameron. He grows trees and then cuts them down and then makes things from them. Brilliant. Marvelous. I don't think I ever want to talk to any of those people."