"I believe he'd be very strong if he ran. Why is that? Primary reason. There's a difference between a movement and a campaign. You can win the presidency and a presidential nomination with a campaign. Joe Biden, great example. He didn't lead a movement. But Barack Obama led a movement, and Donald Trump led a movement. And they have won four of the last five presidential races. It's stronger. A movement is stronger than a campaign. And not only does Bernie lead a movement, he leads one of the two vibrant movements in America today, along with MAGA, the Democratic Socialist Movement. He's singularly the leader of that movement. The other people who are part of it are part of the PAC, part of maybe part of the expanded leadership. But Bernie is the singular leader of it. And Bernie is synonymous in his long-held beliefs and his current advocacy for issues that are emotionally resonant for tens of millions of Americans. Medicare for all, limit on foreign wars, limit on special interest money, an anti-establishment posture, change the status quo. That's it. I mean, that's the heart of why I say Sanders can win. Because that wing of the party that believes in all those things, that's ascendant. We've talked about it here many times. I talked about it on other forums as well, on Two Way and elsewhere. That movement, Sanders would have been the nominee on the strength of that movement in 2016. We've talked about that, taken from him by the Democratic establishment. 2020 would have been the nominee, taken from him at the last minute by the Democratic establishment. 2024, he can't run because there's an incumbent. So is that movement stronger or less strong within the Democratic Party than it was in 2016 and 2020? I would argue substantially stronger. How do we know that? We see it in the polling data of what people in the Democratic Party believe in. We see it in the election nomination of Socialist candidates and Democratic Socialist candidates and Mondami-backed candidates and Sanders-backed candidates around the country. Graham Plattner may be out of the race in Maine, but look at the strength of Graham Plattner, overwhelmingly winning a Democratic primary for Senate against the popular Democratic governor, establishment creature. So I could go on and on about this, but I've talked about it before, and it's not my main topic today. My main topic is taking on the age and health issue. But man, oh man, this guy is the leader of the movement that animates the party."