"continues, or as we already know from people that have spoken out like Jacob Barber and others, is that consciousness is actually the root of disclosure. Consciousness is the root of UAP and UFO phenomena. It's not necessarily a materialistic aspect. It's that there's something far more, whether you want to consider it dimensional or not, that is taking on a materialistic form. But consciousness is the core piece of all of it. So you begin to see the world not necessarily some fixed, static, materialistic universe that we live in. You see it as something that's dynamic, reflexive, and the underlying substrate is not materialistic. It's how we perceive it at our current level of consciousness."