"What I love is, if I can, to be in the live room with the band when they're tracking. Yeah. To be able to just like, you don't want to look as a musician to the people on the other side of the glass and see them like, cause you can't hear anything. Right. But see them like laughing, like, right. Yeah. Because you don't know what they're laughing about. You, you're, you're there trying to pour your heart into a track. They could be laughing at you. You could be feeling super insecure about something. Right. And it's just a weird sort of disconnection, you know, this idea that there's a glass and there's people on the other side of the glass. We even talk about it as a metaphor. So it's, it's strange to me. And that's not what's important. What's like that stuff is just the technical interpreters and the documentarians, they're like the, the acolytes and the librarians. You know what I mean? All the real work is happening here in the room. And this is where I want to be because this is how I can feel it when it's happening or, or sense, you know, look at the musicians and not just through a little window, you know, of observation, participation."