"And I think the general sentiment in most countries in the world today is anti-Israel because of the way it's treating the Palestinians, and that's what people are thinking about. The top echelons, like in this country, as you know, if I say free Palestine, I say that outside on the street, I can be arrested. It's crazy. There's a huge divorce between what people are thinking and what the politicians are saying, and I can't give any explanation for that divorce apart from believing that Israel has something over our political leaders. What do you mean? You think they have something over our political leaders? I think we know about the whole Epstein. The way that the Iranians refer to what's happening is they say they're fighting the Epstein class, and there's belief that there's something where Epstein has been working for the Israeli intelligence service and has blackmailed material on a huge range of politicians, and that's the only way that I can explain the sort of things that politicians are supporting when their populace is angry about those same policies."